My mother, and her nephew and niece were heavy drinkers, living in this site here on Number 3 Reserve, Nanaimo First Nation. They drank every week, much to their own destruction and pain. But low-and-behold, one time they’re listening to a religious station – person called Don Gauset. 1960 – I think it was January of 1960. He’s a pentecost evangelist (whatever you want to call them): very vibrant, very vociferous, and commanding in his presentation; and had affected my mother, Harry, Johnny, and Sally Paul. He said he was going to come over the next two weeks to Ladysmith and have a service there. All people that were having trouble and wanted to change their lives, get saved – to use their word, come to the meeting. So my mother, Harry, Johnny, and Sally Paul went. They didn’t think too much of it then. I wasn’t very fond of religion because of the Residential School, Catholics, Anglicans, and how they treated our Indian people. [I’m] still kind of leary about evangelists as well. But anyway, my mother, her niece and nephew went. Low-and-behold, they got saved. They quit drinking. They quit partying. Quit swearing. Became civilized. And lived that way until they died. So, you’re asking what things impacted me about a time of change. That was one of the things that I’ve seen with my own eyes. Experienced close at-hand ‘cause I lived with them right here, where we’re talking now, and see them keeping that same state till they died changed people. So that at least gave me a belief. I can see that people can change when the right circumstances present themselves.